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AirNav Radar => AirNav Radar Discussion => Topic started by: John Racars on April 16, 2009, 08:15:04 AM

Title: RadarBox & EMBRAER aircraft
Post by: John Racars on April 16, 2009, 08:15:04 AM
Hi All,

recently KLM put into use some EMBRAER ERJ-190STD aircraft. (registration PH-EZA, PH-EZB).

This aircraft does not appear on the RB screen. So I am asking myself or this (brandnew) aircraft are fitted with ADS-B equipment.

Is there more knowledge about this on the forum?

Thank you in advance for your answer(s).
Title: Re: RadarBox & EMBRAER aircraft
Post by: AirNav Support on April 16, 2009, 08:19:43 AM
Boeing, Airbus have ADS-B fitted as standard on new aircraft and have done for a while but the operator can switch it off.

Embraer etc.. we don't think (don't quote us) they have ADS-B as standard yet however we feel that it won't be long before they do.
Title: Re: RadarBox & EMBRAER aircraft
Post by: John Racars on April 16, 2009, 08:40:13 AM
OK Support!

All clear and thank you for your fast reaction.
Title: Re: RadarBox & EMBRAER aircraft
Post by: DeeJay on April 16, 2009, 04:14:17 PM
British Midland Embraers are also non-ADSB, and  have never seen it on DLH ones either.
Title: Re: RadarBox & EMBRAER aircraft
Post by: Spaice on April 16, 2009, 07:22:15 PM
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the ADSB is not required for aircraft under a certain weight, and this includes the Embraer aircraft, although this could change in the future.
Title: Re: RadarBox & EMBRAER aircraft
Post by: DaveReid on April 17, 2009, 06:59:23 AM
Quote from: Spaice on April 16, 2009, 07:22:15 PM
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the ADSB is not required for aircraft under a certain weight, and this includes the Embraer aircraft, although this could change in the future.

The requirement for ADS-B (which only exists in a very small number of airspace areas) isn't dependent on weight AFAIK.
Title: Re: RadarBox & EMBRAER aircraft
Post by: viking9 on April 17, 2009, 02:54:49 PM
Quote from: Spaice on April 16, 2009, 07:22:15 PM
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the ADSB is not required for aircraft under a certain weight, and this includes the Embraer aircraft, although this could change in the future.

You may be confusing ADS-B with Mode S enhanced. I'm not sure if it has been fully implemented but this was the proposal by the CAA some years ago. Note the reference to aircraft mass.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/7/DAP_SSM_Mode_S_SSR_Factsheet.pdf
Title: Re: RadarBox & EMBRAER aircraft
Post by: Spaice on April 17, 2009, 08:33:07 PM
Well you learn something new everyday.  Thanks for the link makes for interesting reading.