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AirNav Radar => AirNav Radar Discussion => Topic started by: daveg4otu on April 28, 2009, 06:23:48 PM

Title: Effect of Weather on reception
Post by: daveg4otu on April 28, 2009, 06:23:48 PM
Only a few days into use  here but have noticed this evening - with a band of very heavy (thundery)showers out to the N and East  of this location(Torquay) that  reception in those directions is  between awful and  poor - the number of  received signals being down at times to only one or two- and with signals dropping in and out.

Just wonder what other users experience of this  is - I know UHF sigs can be very weather sensitive.
Title: Re: Effect of Weather on reception
Post by: malc41 on April 28, 2009, 06:49:15 PM
We get the same here. We overlook the river Trent, and storms/rain follows the river up towards the humber.

The frequencies being used are very short wavelength, thus can be distorted by rain etc
Title: Re: Effect of Weather on reception
Post by: CoastGuardJon on April 28, 2009, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: malc41 on April 28, 2009, 06:49:15 PMThe frequencies being used are very short wavelength, thus can be distorted by rain etc

27cm wavelength, and yes, just the same effects - during the recent fine weather with HP hanging around, some very good results.
Title: Re: Effect of Weather on reception
Post by: WAL 2T on April 28, 2009, 06:56:52 PM
Rain attenuation isn't generally a significant factor at 1GHz (it starts becoming a big problem above 10GHz as you move closer to the water absorption line) and rain scattering will hit you at around 3-5GHz. Perhaps on weak, bursty signals it would have an effect on contacts at the edge of your coverage ranges.
Title: Re: Effect of Weather on reception
Post by: daveg4otu on April 28, 2009, 07:08:24 PM


Thanks for comments....

BTW- I'm not talking about  your ordinary shower of rain - Rather the kind of rain I'm talking about is  the  cats & dogs (plus frogs) kind!
Title: Re: Effect of Weather on reception
Post by: WAL 2T on April 28, 2009, 07:17:42 PM
There's a good section on Rain attenuation in Introduction to Propagation (Seybold) including the ITU rain attenuation model to play around with, scientific calculators in hand... and a strong coffee in the other


Title: Re: Effect of Weather on reception
Post by: CoastGuardJon on May 01, 2009, 06:31:58 PM
Hi WAL 2T, whether it's rain attenuation or what I don't know, but thick low cloud definitely makes a significant difference to my reception.
Title: Re: Effect of Weather on reception
Post by: HadNav on May 02, 2009, 01:58:24 AM
Cloud below a planes height will affect radar. Thats when I hear strange throttle ups and downs when the planes can't be observed visually or are just plane noisy!
Title: Re: Effect of Weather on reception
Post by: HadNav on May 02, 2009, 02:00:37 AM
Water vapour attenuates radar frequencies also sat tv.