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AirNav Radar => AirNav Radar Discussion => Topic started by: dudbaker on November 16, 2010, 09:43:31 AM

Title: Mode S Debden
Post by: dudbaker on November 16, 2010, 09:43:31 AM
Hi

I picked up what I thought were strange codes.  Some research found them to be Ground stations at Stansted.  


Stansted
43BFBF c/s REF2TOP
43BFBE REF2BOT
43BFC0 TEST1234
43BFC1 SMRTOP

The same research found these.

Debden
43BF12 DEBDENA1/2
43BF15 DEBDENB1/2

Why does Debden need these codes?

Dudley
Title: Re: Mode S Debden
Post by: orkney on November 16, 2010, 09:57:29 AM
Hello

From what I have found it is probably the radar site where these transponders are based. I have attached a link to an image of it.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/280029


Andrew
Title: Re: Mode S Debden
Post by: dudbaker on December 07, 2010, 09:57:50 AM
Hi

An update on Stansted codes.  The data base has been updated.  43BFC1 now has a registration of <GND>.  Name and Airline show Ground Transmitter.  43BF55 registration is <GND>.  Name and Airline are Ground Vehicle with callsign Ranger.  

Ground vehicles having Mode S codes has been talked about for a while.  Why do transmitters at Stansted and Debden need codes?

Dudley
Title: Re: Mode S Debden
Post by: ACW367 on December 07, 2010, 11:52:57 AM
The ground transmitters at VOR locations are basically low powered test devices used to calibration purposes by the authorities.  The mode S codes for airfield vehicles mean they show up on ground movement control systems in control towers.  It is part of a wider drive to increase visibility of vehicles to controllers and aircraft movements and to prevent runway incursions by vehicles.
Title: Re: Mode S Debden
Post by: ACW367 on December 07, 2010, 12:00:09 PM
In our DB we are recording them with registration field  <GND>
This is what is being used for SBS and passes through the Yahoo mode S group parser.  However the field corruption means you currently get a different variation on this like <GRN>
Title: Re: Mode S Debden
Post by: dudbaker on December 07, 2010, 02:32:45 PM
ACW367

Thanks for the info on VOR locations.  Stansted does not have VOR.  It has NDB and ILS/DME.  However, your answer could easliy apply to this type of location.  Also, Debden is a radar not a nav aid but again could used for calibration purposes.

It starts to become clear.

Dudley
Title: Re: Mode S Debden
Post by: dudbaker on January 25, 2011, 11:32:51 AM
Hi

I am now picking up vehicles at Stansted.  Callsign Ranger.  Why do these vehicles send Mode S without possision data?
Title: Re: Mode S Debden
Post by: ACW367 on January 25, 2011, 06:06:01 PM
Even without ADS-B they can be seen on ground movement systems which use Mode S multilateration
http://www.eurocontrol.int/msa/public/faq/faq.html

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How should the transponder operate when the aircraft is on the ground?   

When switched-on, on the ground, the transponder will respond only to selective addressing. This is important at aerodromes where Advanced Surface Movement Guidance and Control Systems (A-SMGCS), based on Mode S multilateration, are being used. Flight crew should make themselves aware of any detailed on-the-ground Mode S transponder operating instructions promulgated by such aerodromes. See also www.eurocontrol.int/airports/, click-on A-SMGCS