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AirNav Radar => AirNav Radar Discussion => Topic started by: dunc8543 on October 23, 2013, 09:20:17 AM

Title: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on October 23, 2013, 09:20:17 AM
Hi all,

Why is it that aircraft that are manually updated and added to the database yesterday are not even in the database today.
The database is set to not overwrite manually changed records.

Thanks

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 09:37:24 AM
The only thing I can suggest that they were not saved correctly.  If you have added something to your local Navdata and we dont have it in the database and you have got it marked to ignore manually changed records I cannot see that an update can change what it doesnt have details on.

Alan
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on October 23, 2013, 10:03:53 AM
Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I think I may have the answer, I have just updated a record today and didn't see the that right at the end of the record is a box "Autoupdate Y/No".
I have altered this to no and will check tomorrow.

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 10:46:21 AM
That will be the reason Dunc

Alan
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on October 24, 2013, 04:42:16 PM
Hi,

Tried to update the database but with a N in the Autoupdate but this has still been overwritten and all my entries amended.
Can you please enlighten me on the correct proceedure so that it can be resolved as there is either a glitch in the programme or its my ineptness.

Thanks Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: Runway 31 on October 24, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
Dunc,

On the database updater there is also a tick box for Do Not Update Manually Changed Records, the N only tells the system that this is a manually changed record.

An alternative is to pass me the datails of the aircraft that I dont have in the database and I can have them included but if you dont want to share them no worries

Alan
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on October 25, 2013, 06:29:31 PM
Yep seen that and amended the Y to N makes no difference.

Database not set to update records automatically yet still will not save any amendments you make.
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: tarbat on October 25, 2013, 06:42:00 PM
Dunc, this has definitely been tested, and as long as AUTOUPDATE on the aircraft record is "N", it never gets updated.  Maybe you can describe exactly what you're doing, so we can understand what might be going wrong.
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: Runway 31 on October 25, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
Dunc,

Once you have made your entry and changed Y to N did you click somewhere on the grid to set the N entry?

Alan
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on October 25, 2013, 07:19:20 PM
Hi Tarbat,

Preferences- Radarbox- Auto populate aircraft data -OFF (Unticked) , Auto update manually changed records- OFF  (Unticked)

Database explorer- Do not update manually changed records- selected

Aircraft Details amended and in the last box AUTOUPDATE- N

Click in another box to confirm entry

Database explorer then closed but as soon as Radarbox closes and then opened again all details revert back to original details

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: tarbat on October 25, 2013, 07:35:50 PM
Reverse steps 2 and 3.
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on October 25, 2013, 07:42:02 PM
Hi Tarbat,



Database explorer- Do not update manually changed records- selected

Aircraft Details amended and in the last box AUTOUPDATE- N

These 2 ?

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: tarbat on October 25, 2013, 07:45:20 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on October 25, 2013, 07:46:29 PM
Thanks will give it a try

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on November 01, 2013, 01:04:27 PM
Hi Guys,

Sorry to be a pain but any updates I make are still not saved in the database after I log off and then back in.

If I wanted to make the following detail changes can you please give me a step by step guide on how to do it.

eg. AE071C is a USAF F-15

If I wanted to record it in database as follows

AT= F-15 /  AN= McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle / AC= USAF- RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk

What would be the correct proceedure and settings

Thanks in anticipation

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: Runway 31 on November 01, 2013, 01:37:20 PM
Hi Dunc,

AE071C is in database explorer as follows MS = AE071C, AR = TACTICAL, CN=N/A, AT=Tactical Code - Various F-15 Aircraft, AC=US - Air Force, AI=F15, Autoupdate = Y

If you want to make changes to what we have, change what you want and then scroll right along to the right hand side and change the autoupdate Y to N.

Alan

Alan
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: tarbat on November 01, 2013, 01:45:05 PM
MENU - FILE - DATABASE EXPLORER
Select aircraft table
Enter AE071C in "Text to Find", CONDITION = IN, FIELD = MS
Edit each field, and make sure you set AUTOUPDATE field to N.

BUT, next time the USAF assign this ModeS hex code to a different aircraft, which they do regularly, you'll need to update the database again, if you know when they change it.
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on November 01, 2013, 03:06:08 PM
Hi,

Have followed the steps as described and data is changed but as soon as i close the programme and restart then its lost and reverts back to previous entry.

Settings are as follows

Photo And aircraft Auto-Populate

Download aircraft photo- ticked
Download 2 photos for each aircraft- ticked

In Database explorer

Do not update manually changed records- selected

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: Runway 31 on November 01, 2013, 04:31:51 PM
Did you change Y to N on the aircraft record in database explorer as I advised you to do when you were changing the record?  If you dont do this the other changes are ignored.

In photo and auto-populate there you also have to untick Update Manually Changed Records

Alan
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on November 01, 2013, 05:21:58 PM
Hi,

Yes changed to Y to N on each record changed and in Photo and Aircraft auto-populate only ones selected are Download aircraft photo / download 2 photos.

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: tarbat on November 01, 2013, 05:40:56 PM
Quote from: dunc8543Have followed the steps as described and data is changed but as soon as i close the programme and restart then its lost and reverts back to previous entry.

Lets take a step back.  When you say its reverted back to previous entry, is that even BEFORE you run a database update, and even BEFORE the aircraft is received again.  How long did you wait between closing ANRB and re-starting it?  Sometimes ANRB continues working in the background committing navdata database updates (from the NavData.db3-journal) after ANRB appears to have closed.
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on November 01, 2013, 06:10:54 PM
Ok,

I update the aircraft details as previously described and exit back to the main screen, I then unclick process hardware flights and then reselect to force the database to refresh.

At the end of each session of use whether it be 5 mins or 5 days when the app is opened any aircraft i modify cannot be found in the database explorer.

I.e K35R changed to K135 will revert back to K35R as will any other details changed.

Also that aircraft when tracked will appear under the Radarbox details on screen but in My Log screen as the details I enter.
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on November 07, 2013, 11:33:10 AM
Hi all,

This issue has still not been resolved, anyone any ideas ?

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on December 08, 2013, 11:16:05 AM
Thanks to all that helped with this matter.

It has been resolved by completing a full delete/ re-install and all working fine now.

Thanks again

Dunc
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: Runway 31 on December 08, 2013, 11:50:35 AM
Glad its all sorted Dunc

Alan
Title: Re: Database updates
Post by: dunc8543 on December 08, 2013, 01:11:52 PM
Thanks Alan,

I have to say it is so much easier and quicker to use now, am very impressed.

Dunc