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AirNav Radar => AirNav Radar Discussion => Topic started by: CoastGuardJon on February 05, 2014, 07:49:11 PM

Title: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: CoastGuardJon on February 05, 2014, 07:49:11 PM
Hi all,
Has anyone else  noticed three A/C flying SE over California, only details are their signatures HIBAL 148/9/150 height and speed which currently are all under 100 knots - helios, one 1 then 12kts?
They're all showing as being Sri Lankan national flagged, which obviously ain't the case!
Title: Re: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: RodBearden on February 05, 2014, 08:06:44 PM
I wonder if they could be balloons - the leading one's now apparently at FL659 at 23KT
Title: Re: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: Runway 31 on February 05, 2014, 08:15:36 PM
Yes, saw one earlier at FL570 and wondered at the slow speed.  They appear to have originated from Chico Municipal or thereabouts

Alan
Title: Re: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: Runway 31 on February 05, 2014, 08:55:05 PM
I googled Hibal Balloon Projects and got a good number of hits.  HIBAL stands for High Altitude Balloon and they are used for a number of weather and scientific purposes.  Transponders attached for tracking purposes.

Alan
Title: Re: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: RodBearden on February 05, 2014, 09:27:08 PM
I wonder if it's a Google wifi test: http://photos.mercurynews.com/2013/07/26/google-tests-wifi-in-the-sky-using-high-altitude-balloons-to-beam-internet-connectivity
Title: Re: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: CoastGuardJon on February 05, 2014, 10:10:40 PM
Hi Rod and Alan, yes, that would make sense but earlier one was travelling at 87 knots, I think the height was 5,900' - must have winds like us down here in Kernow!
Title: Re: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: SIGINT1 on February 06, 2014, 06:43:06 PM
Picked up the Mode S on all three here in Reno, NV - seem to be in area north of Grass Valley, California
Title: Re: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: CoastGuardJon on February 06, 2014, 10:36:18 PM
I've just opened RB and see HIBAL 149 up again, FL 613 - so is that 613', 6,130' or 61,300 at a speed of 24knots.  Yes, I do know the standard FL protocol, before anyone feels the need to explain it!!
Title: Re: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: CoastGuardJon on February 06, 2014, 10:40:53 PM
Time is GMT -1 hour (2239GMT) and I see HIBAL 150 at FL602 (my guess would be height in metres???) and speed 16knots.
Title: Re: HIBAL 148, 149, 150 flying over California
Post by: RodBearden on February 07, 2014, 01:32:54 AM
If they are the Google-type balloons, then flight-level (hundreds of feet) would be within the realms of possibility