Interesting Military Aircraft

[anorak]

43C0AC  KAYAK61/combo   ZA149   VC10  UK - Air Force   2010/02/06 10:54:49 sqk3351 at 32000, again with clear viz. Must be ready next week!

[viking9]

AE041B  GOTO FMS   164409  BE-   USA - Navy    2010/02/06 09:58:30 sqk 2227 at35000ft

Dave that's an E-6B. Took off from Mildenhall around 0934 radio c/s RAZZ33

Tom

[anorak]

Ta Tom, nice to know.

[KevinB]

Picked up the 4 Iraqi AF Texans on delivery descending into Caen:

7281F7  YI-503  Beechcraft T-6A Texan II  Iraqi Air Force  06/02/2010 17:35
7281FA             Beechcraft T-6A Texan II  Iraqi Air Force  06/02/2010 17:53
7281FB             Beechcraft T-6A Texan II  Iraqi Air Force  2010/02/06 17:58
7281FC             Beechcraft T-6A Texan II  Iraqi Air Force  2010/02/06 18:28

Anyone know the serials of the other three? Thanks.

Kevin

[anorak]

44F42E  BAF605  CH-13   C130  Belgium - Air Force  2010/02/06 20:48:30
Just gone over head,sqk 7744 at 27000ft

[perezoso]

Red Meatball of a Japanese Air Force 744 flying overhead in Texas right now:

87C00 JAF801 20-1101

Route says RJTT-KLAX.  Obviously not updated.  Headed ESE at 38000 ft.  Doesn't look like he's stopping anywhere in Texas or, for that matter, the US.

Looks like others on the network caught him coming east from California.

[DaveReid]

87C00 JAF801 20-1101

Route says RJTT-KLAX.  Obviously not updated.  Headed ESE at 38000 ft.  Doesn't look like he's stopping anywhere in Texas or, for that matter, the US.

That route needs to be removed completely from the database, not updated.

The Japanese Air Force clearly doesn't have a scheduled route network, besides which ICAO designator JAF doesn't belong to them anyway, but to TUI Airlines Belgium t/a Jetairfly.

[Marpleman]

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That route needs to be removed completely from the database, not updated.

The Japanese Air Force clearly doesn't have a scheduled route network, besides which ICAO designator JAF doesn't belong to them anyway, but to TUI Airlines Belgium t/a Jetairfly.

Dave

forgive my ignorance, but is the route actually invalid, or is it more a case of an "unfortunate/unavoidable" consequence of the Japanese AF callsign inadvertantly taking another operators route purely by having "JAF" as part of the flight ID?

I've often noticed "mis coded" ICAO codes picking up dodgy operator logos as a result of presumably flight crew error.

Just curious!

Rich

[Horsham Spotter]

Picked up the 4 Iraqi AF Texans on delivery descending into Caen:

7281F7  YI-503  Beechcraft T-6A Texan II  Iraqi Air Force  06/02/2010 17:35
7281FA             Beechcraft T-6A Texan II  Iraqi Air Force  06/02/2010 17:53
7281FB             Beechcraft T-6A Texan II  Iraqi Air Force  2010/02/06 17:58
7281FC             Beechcraft T-6A Texan II  Iraqi Air Force  2010/02/06 18:28

Anyone know the serials of the other three? Thanks.

Kevin

Hello Kevin
7281FA  YI-506
7281FB  YI-507
7281FC  YI-508
Anyone know C/N for the above and 7281F7 YI-503
Steve

[DaveReid]

Forgive my ignorance, but is the route actually invalid, or is it more a case of an "unfortunate/unavoidable" consequence of the Japanese AF callsign inadvertantly taking another operators route purely by having "JAF" as part of the flight ID?

I've often noticed "mis coded" ICAO codes picking up dodgy operator logos as a result of presumably flight crew error.

The route is both invalid for our purposes, since clearly the same callsign has now been used on at least two different routings - JAF001/002 is another even more common example - and also illegal under ICAO rules:

In accordance with ICAO Doc 8168 [PANS-OPS] Vol. I, Part VIII, 1.3, flight crew of aircraft equipped with Mode S having an Aircraft Identification Feature shall set the Aircraft Identification in the transponder. This setting shall correspond to the Aircraft Identification specified in item 7 of the ICAO flight plan, or if no flight plan has been filed, the aircraft registration.

Aircraft Identification, not exceeding 7 alphanumeric characters, is to be entered in item 7 of the flight plan and set in the aircraft as follows:

Either,

(a) The ICAO three letter designator (not the IATA two letter designator) for the aircraft operating agency followed by the flight identification, for example, BAW213 or JTR25, when:

(i) In radiotelephony, the callsign used consists of the ICAO telephony designator for the operating agency followed by the flight identification, for example SPEEDBIRD 213 or HERBIE 25.

Or,

(b) The registration marking of the aircraft, for example GINFO, or EIAKO, when:

(i) In radiotelephony, the callsign used comprises the registration marking alone, for example GINFO, or is preceded by the ICAO telephony designator for the operating agency, for example SVENAIR EIAKO.

(ii) The aircraft is not equipped with radio.

[Marpleman]

Cheers Dave

Got it now!

Rich

[anorak]

* 43C146  ZE700   B461 (Statesman )  UK - Air Force  2010/02/07 13:00:28

[anorak]

* 43C245  ZJ176   H64   UK - Army 2010/02/08 19:08:33
Had these buzzing around all day low level, even put the kettle on but they didn`t stop, perhaps tomorrow.

[Canonjohns40D]

Hi on the radarbox at 00.41 North of Dublin tracking Eastbound is AE010E USAF C-37 flight id S6490 registration 97-0401 ht 40925 sqwk 2713 Transit (ORCAM) Shannon.

John

[dunc8543]

Hi all,

Now showing is Boeing OC-135B 61-2670 "OPEN SKIES" aircraft from 45RS /55WG USAF.

No callsign shown