Auto Populate

tarbat · March 21, 2008, 08:59:30 PM

Roadrunner, I accept that they'll always be some that GAS won't populate. But the ones I'm finding won't populate from the Airnav servers, even though the details are on GAS.

ChrisGR · March 21, 2008, 09:37:20 PM

By the moment I have not so much blank entries.
Only 78 -:)
I think tarbat is a good idea i will delete them and start from the beginning again.
I leave my computer running for sharing data in to the network, and when I come back from my work some new blank entries they welcoming me.

AirNav Development · March 21, 2008, 10:36:12 PM

We have just finished some work to try to fix this problem. Can you check it again now?

AirNav Development · March 22, 2008, 01:42:03 AM

Adding to the post above:
The problem is that the system was not accepting data for aircraft that existed in the GAS database but not on airliners.net.

It is possible for the populate feature to have problems in some rare occasions ad odd cases like the one above. Whenever that happens please send us the mode-s that caused it not to work. It is much easy for us to test it with real cases and examples than to program based on general comments.

tarbat · March 22, 2008, 07:38:42 AM

Okay, these two mode-s codes still fail to get details when using tools - populate:

4CA644
EI-DYB on GAS (B738 : Boeing 737-8AS : Ryanair :33633)

3C656C
D-AIKL on GAS (A333 : Airbus A330-343X : Lufthansa : 905)
Has a photo on airliners.net - http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=D-AIKL

Marinus · March 22, 2008, 07:43:01 AM

Quote from: tarbat on March 22, 2008, 07:38:42 AM

3C656C
D-AIKL on GAS (A333 : Airbus A330-343X : Lufthansa : 905)
Has a photo on airliners.net - http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=D-AIKL

Actually it has no photo on Airliners, it's new reg is only mentioned in the Remark field, it's reg in the Airliners DB = F-WWYC

Regards,

Marinus.

tarbat · March 22, 2008, 07:47:36 AM

Quote from: Marinus on March 22, 2008, 07:43:01 AM
Actually it has no photo on Airliners, it's new reg is only mentioned in the Remark field, it's reg in the Airliners DB = F-WWYC

I guess that might explain why the Airnav server has problems with it.

I still don't understand why it can't retrieve the details from GAS even if no photos exist on airliners.net. I want the GAS details downloaded, even without photos from airliners.net.

tarbat · March 22, 2008, 08:17:30 AM

Quote from: tarbat on March 22, 2008, 07:38:42 AM
Okay, these two mode-s codes still fail to get details when using tools - populate:

4CA644
EI-DYB on GAS (B738 : Boeing 737-8AS : Ryanair :33633)

3C656C
D-AIKL on GAS (A333 : Airbus A330-343X : Lufthansa : 905)
Has a photo on airliners.net - http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=D-AIKL

Both of these are now fixed and populate okay.

In fact, autopopulate now appears to be working a LOT better. For the first time EVER, all 632 aircraft (except 1) in the Network list of aircraft has registration details. FIXED!

EINN-07 · March 22, 2008, 08:30:23 AM

Quote from: tarbat on March 21, 2008, 03:18:53 PM
Okay. I've still got 40 aircraft that won't autopopulate:
343181, 343183, 383D1A, 398902, 3C2909, 3C656C, 3E48D1, 3EB4B7, 405455, 430045, 43C1D0, 43C1D5, 43C2F4, 440346, 473410, 473411, 484557, 48455E, 4845AC, 4B3903, 4CA646, 4CA648, 503147, 748012, 800389, 80041B, A09DEC, A0F958, A2A5E7, A33E2E, A37550, A3827D, A560F4, A572E9, A7D66B, A89BDD, ADE5D3, AE07AA, AE1290, AE1531

I've tried Tools - Populate dozens of times on these, so now I'm going to delete these from MyLog and start with a clean sheet.

tarbat

Could it be that there are issues such as field length / character type incompatabilities between the GAS and RB servers ? Most of my updates to the RB database have been made manually and I have noticed a significant number of fields with swopped data on the GAS server eg the aircraft serial number under the aircraft company and v.v.
I looked for one of your codes (398902) that didn't auotopoulate and found Tie-up extracted from Country Sequence under aircraft type. Do GAS have a flag for releasing a record for autopopulate ? Maybe this one doesn't have it ?

ChrisGR · March 22, 2008, 08:48:28 AM

It works fine at last !!!
Thank you AirNav group
Chris

Marinus · March 22, 2008, 09:33:50 AM

@ Airnav,

Indeed confirmation that also for me autopopulate at
the moment works great !!

Regards,

Marinus.

Roadrunner · March 22, 2008, 10:36:26 AM

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I still don't understand why it can't retrieve the details from GAS even if no photos exist on airliners.net. I want the GAS details downloaded, even without photos from airliners.net.
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I totally agree. The system needs to be robust enough to update the records even if a photo does not exist. What would happen if you don't want photos? would it preclude any updating?

AirNav Development · March 22, 2008, 01:56:03 PM

Roadrunner: that problem should be corrected now. It will retrieve data from GAS eve if no airliners.net data exists.

Roadrunner · March 22, 2008, 07:22:36 PM

Thats is good :-)

RodBearden · March 25, 2008, 05:22:42 PM

Sorry to bring this up, but, I've just had a couple of "Tie-up extracted from Country Sequence" messages from Spirit Airlines planes codes A6C07F and A967EB. The first was reporting aircraft type as "Null", and the second as "..." No photos appeared for either one.

Does this mean there's still a problem?

Or is it just me?

Rod