Crash TC-JGE Turkish Airlines

[Minou]

A copy of my log of today's crash near EHAM.  Very sad...

[AirNav Support]

RIP to those victims and thoughts are with their families.

Your log shows the aircraft 400ft only doing 88kts which matches the eyewitness reports that it had no engine power and was gliding.

[bee46]

did somebody record this flight on radarbox?

[John Racars]

did somebody record this flight on radarbox?

Yes, I did.

But first and for all I would like to let you know I totaly agree with the declaration made by AirNav Support about this crash.

Here the data logged in "My log":

ModeS: 4BA8E5
Registration: TC-JGE
A/C Type: B738
A/C Name: Boeing 737-8F2
ModeSCountry: Turkey
ADSB: Y
Callsign: THY1951
Route: LTBA-EHAM
MsgCount: 587
Starttime: 2009/02/25 10:00:14
Endtime: 2009/02/25 10:31:03
StartAltitude: 36000
EndAltitude: 450
StartGS: 390
EndGS: 100
StartPosition: N51 46.7 E007 45.8
EndPosition: N52 23.0 E004 42.8

Note: the "Endtime" is the same time as given up by the Dutch authoritys as AOG time.

[tarbat]

Yes, I did.

John, did you keep the recording file?

[John Racars]

John, did you keep the recording file?

Hi Tarbat,

I am verry sorry. I was not at home at that moments (on the airport at work) and the programm was NOT recording at that time, it was logging only. So unfortunately I have not a recording file of this.

My program was in "Sharing data" mode at that time so maybe other RadarBox-users did record this flight......

[viking9]

'Gliding' at 88 kts! I very much doubt it. Stalled more likely. Touchdown speed is around 134kts for that aircraft.

[Fenris]

'Gliding' at 88 kts! I very much doubt it. Stalled more likely. Touchdown speed is around 134kts for that aircraft.

OpenATC have a complete track for TC-JGE, it makes for interesting viewing.

See:

http://www.openatc.com/THY1951/

Final sink rate is showing as in excess of 4000ft/min, and 83kts ground speed.  I believe the headwind component was 7-8kts, so IAS would have been about 90kts.

A 738 does not really fly at that speed :(

[viking9]

A 738 does not really fly at that speed :(

Quite!

Tom